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we have details. >> reporter: on "meet the press," president obama continued his public campaign to pressure congress. >> if congress doesn't act then everybody's taxes go up, and for the average family that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income and the whole economy could slow down at a time when the economy is starting to pick up. >> reporter: he again called on lawmakers to strike a deal or hold a vote on his plan which would raise tax rates on wealthy americans, a major sticking point for republicans. >> the way they are behaving is that their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. that seems to be their only overriding unifying theme. >> reporter: after the interview republican leaders accused the president of assigning blame instead of leading. >> so when they say leadership falls on you mr. president you don't have a role here in breaking this impasse? you've had a tough go with congress. >> if folks can't say yes to good offers, then i also have an obligation to the american people to make sure that the entire burden of deficit reduct
we have details. >> reporter: on "meet the press," president obama continued his public campaign to pressure congress. >> if congress doesn't act then everybody's taxes go up, and for the average family that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income and the whole economy could slow down at a time when the economy is starting to pick up. >> reporter: he again called on lawmakers to strike a deal or hold a vote on his plan which would raise tax rates on wealthy americans,...
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president obama will speak to nbc's david gregory on "meet the press" this sunday. it is obviously a critical moment for the economy, so you are going to want to tune in. "meet the press" is sunday morning. we be right back. check out my new treadmill app. pretty sweet, huh? cute. but don't you have any apps on your phone that can make your life easier? who do you think i am, quicken loans? at quicken loans, we'll provide you with myql mobile. this amazingly useful app allows you to take pictures of your mortgage documents using an iphone or android smart phone... so you can easily send them to us. one more way quicken loans is engineered to amaze. ooh, la-la! [ male announcer ] if you think all batteries are the same... consider this: when the unexpected happens, there's one brand of battery more emergency workers trust in their maglites: duracell. one reason: duralock power preserve. it locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. guaranteed. so, whether it's 10 years' of life's sunny days... or... the occasional stormy one... trust goes a long way. duracell with
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president obama went on "meet the press" to call out mcconnell and house speaker john boehner over tax hikes. >> i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to know that taxes should go up as part of an overall deficit reduction. >> a health scare for hillary clinton. new details as the secretary of state undergoes treatment for a blood clot in a new york hospital. >>> ringing in the new year. from sydney to new york city. the world turns the page to 2013. good day. i'm chris live in washington in for andrea today. deal or no deal? as vice president joe biden and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell continue negotiations, we just have learned that president obama will speak about the fiscal cliff at 1:30 p.m. eastern time. with all that happening, let's get right to our daily fix. nbc's kelly o'donnell on capitol hill, nbc's kristen welker at the white house, and jonathan capehart, washington post editorial writer and my colleague and an msnbc contributor. okay, kelly. the action is on the hill where it's been for the last few days. let's start w
president obama went on "meet the press" to call out mcconnell and house speaker john boehner over tax hikes. >> i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to know that taxes should go up as part of an overall deficit reduction. >> a health scare for hillary clinton. new details as the secretary of state undergoes treatment for a blood clot in a new york hospital. >>> ringing in the new year. from sydney to new york city. the...
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president obama using the bully pulpit of his office to put pressure on congress. "meet the press" tomorrow and take a listen to part of what he said yesterday afternoon. take a listen. >> if an agreement isn't reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote. >> up or down vote. what kind of pressure would that put on members of congress? >> this is all about the blame game, craig. it takes 60 votes to do almost anything in the u.s. senate. for president obama calling for an up or down vote, for the senate which rarely happens he would be saying if any republican or groups of republicans ends up blocking the legislation, they would be the ones who would be blamed for going over the fiscal cliff and luke russert just outlined something else, too, if you even get 60 votes that then goes to the house the question is does house speaker john boehner and republicans allow that to come to the vote. if they don't, they'll be the ones to get the blame. so president obama w
president obama using the bully pulpit of his office to put pressure on congress. "meet the press" tomorrow and take a listen to part of what he said yesterday afternoon. take a listen. >> if an agreement isn't reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote. >> up or down vote. what kind of pressure would that put on members of congress? >> this is all about the...
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with president obama. check local listings for "meet the press" tomorrow morning. >>> turn to weather now. another winter storm. marching north, promising snow. right now, crews and homeowners getting ready in pennsylvania. in massachusetts, coastal residents trying to secure their homes after the last storm, washed way some 20 feet of sand. people are hoping for cooler temperatures and fresh snow in some ski resorts. looking at this in rhode island. meteorologist dylan dreyer with the forecast. >> thanks, c.j. good morning. we're talking about more snow in the northeast. this time around, more of a new england snowstorm, especially southeastern new england. right now, the storm generating some snow. at this time moving through ohio and western pennsylvania and western new york state. rain through the carolinas and virginia. most of washington, d.c. area. you can see the winter storm warnings and advisories all throughout the northeast, throughout the day. this whole storm system is going to track just to
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. >> president obama on "meet the press" over the weekend. in the wake of the newtown, connecticut school shootings. the president insisted he wants new gun control legislation passed in the next year. he put vice president biden in charge of that task force to make recommendations to him. democratic congressman john yarmouth of kentucky joins us now and he sits on the budget oversight and government reform and ethics committees. good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> what is your thought on what the president said on "meet the press?" >> i think he is absolutely right. what sets this apart, however, is that we do have presidential leadership on this issue. that is something that hasn't been there during past attempts to do something to curb gun violence. i am thrilled about that. i agree with him totally. i've said many times the public has to keep the drum beat going because unless there is a perceived cost to many of the politicians up here not much is likely to happen. we have to make sure the public is engaged and continues to be en
. >> president obama on "meet the press" over the weekend. in the wake of the newtown, connecticut school shootings. the president insisted he wants new gun control legislation passed in the next year. he put vice president biden in charge of that task force to make recommendations to him. democratic congressman john yarmouth of kentucky joins us now and he sits on the budget oversight and government reform and ethics committees. good to see you. >> good to be with you....
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president obama wants chuck naggel to be his next defense secretary. he is looking at a losing battle with members of both parties. hagel, a republican, got a less than -- on "meet the press" on sunday. >> i think it will be a challenging nomination, but the hearings will matter. >> i have to study his record. i'm not going to comment until the president makes the nomination. >> all right. >> joining us me here in new york is deputy political director. dom inco, it's good to have you here. we're hearing from both men here, just a small sampling, from "meet the press" over the weekend, that they are hesitant to back hagel. just on the surface without having to, you know, look into his career. >> do not you just love when someone really likes somebody but they don't know if they're going to vote for him. i think with him there is a lot of things that got brought up about things that he has said in the past. about his position on israel and whether or not he would go to war with iran if it came to that. this is what happens when there are people who are p
president obama wants chuck naggel to be his next defense secretary. he is looking at a losing battle with members of both parties. hagel, a republican, got a less than -- on "meet the press" on sunday. >> i think it will be a challenging nomination, but the hearings will matter. >> i have to study his record. i'm not going to comment until the president makes the nomination. >> all right. >> joining us me here in new york is deputy political director. dom...
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. >>> you want to see "meet the press" tomorrow. david gregory sitting down exclusively with president obama talking about this fiscal cliff. it will be the president's second appearance on the program as commander in chief. you need to check your local listings. >>> want to turn now to a developing story. crews are searching for survivors of a deadly plane crash in russia. the passenger plane skidded off the runway during a landing at moscow airported to. aircraft broke into pieces, burst into flames. the plane was carrying between 8 and 12 crew members. local reports saying at least four people were killed in that. again a developing story we are keeping an eye on. >>> also another developing story here is weather. a new winter storm system is dumping snow in the northeast. most of the snow is piling up in pennsylvania and new york as we speak. but parts of new england could see the worst of this storm. the weather channel meteorologist mike seidel. he is live for us alongside the pennsylvania turnpike in new cumberland. ways goin
. >>> you want to see "meet the press" tomorrow. david gregory sitting down exclusively with president obama talking about this fiscal cliff. it will be the president's second appearance on the program as commander in chief. you need to check your local listings. >>> want to turn now to a developing story. crews are searching for survivors of a deadly plane crash in russia. the passenger plane skidded off the runway during a landing at moscow airported to. aircraft...
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obama reminded americans that america had chosen him and his agenda over them. but republican senators essentially blocked susan right before she was ever nominated as secretary of state. now be prominent republicans are signaling troubling ahead for a fellow republicans, chuck hagel of nebraska if the president nominates him as the next defense sek. >> i don't think he's going to get me republican i like. but his positions i didn't frankly know all of them are really out of the mainstream and well to the left of the president. i think it lab challenging nomination but the hearings will matter. >> well, the president is not getting much help from democrats either. here's senator chuck schumer answering whether he would support senator hagel's nomination. take a listen. >> i'd have to study his record. i'm not going to comment until the president makes a nomination. >> joining me now, presidential historian michael beschloss. some republicans say they go have problems with hagel's opposition to the war in iraq, that's one issue, pro--israeli groups question his s
obama reminded americans that america had chosen him and his agenda over them. but republican senators essentially blocked susan right before she was ever nominated as secretary of state. now be prominent republicans are signaling troubling ahead for a fellow republicans, chuck hagel of nebraska if the president nominates him as the next defense sek. >> i don't think he's going to get me republican i like. but his positions i didn't frankly know all of them are really out of the...
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here is what president obama had to say on that point on "meet the press." take a listen. >> i was modestly optimistic yesterday but we don't yet see an agreement. now the pressure is on congress to produce. if they don't, what i have said is that in the senate, we should go ahead and introduce legislation that would make sure middle class taxes stay where they are. there should be an up and down vote. everybody should have the right to vote on it. if republicans don't like it, vote no. i think there's a majority support to make sure they are held. >> two points. first, he is saying if it passes the senate, he's calling on house speaker boehner to put his back up proposal to a vote. there's a big question over weather speaker boehner will do that. also, embedded in the president's answer there is a window into the white house and democrat strategy, to leave republicans holding the ball at the end of the process if the legislation goes down for defeat, it will go down for defeat on their watch. in essence, adding to the pressure of them to get something done.
here is what president obama had to say on that point on "meet the press." take a listen. >> i was modestly optimistic yesterday but we don't yet see an agreement. now the pressure is on congress to produce. if they don't, what i have said is that in the senate, we should go ahead and introduce legislation that would make sure middle class taxes stay where they are. there should be an up and down vote. everybody should have the right to vote on it. if republicans don't like it,...
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there is no reason this should have gone like this, and, yes, president obama gave a kind of jerky press conference today. on the other hand, he moved quite a bit further towards the republicans than they moved towards him, no the to mention in 2011 giving them an over $1 trillion bill that was all spending cuts when they threatened to default on the debt ceiling and didn't allow any tax increases into it. so you've had, i think a reaction from republicans. i saw speaker boehner tweeting the house has already solved the problem and senate democrats haven't acted. it's a amamazing to see people all upset about this press conference. >> the fight has seemed very bitter at times. but by all indications when they get to the debt ceiling it will be even worse. the president has committed himself to not compromised one iota on the debt ceiling. he said it will be raised and he won't give up anything as a concession. republicans have committed themselves to extracting significant entitlement reforms. you can only imagine the type of rhetoric that's going to happen in their press conferences, in
there is no reason this should have gone like this, and, yes, president obama gave a kind of jerky press conference today. on the other hand, he moved quite a bit further towards the republicans than they moved towards him, no the to mention in 2011 giving them an over $1 trillion bill that was all spending cuts when they threatened to default on the debt ceiling and didn't allow any tax increases into it. so you've had, i think a reaction from republicans. i saw speaker boehner tweeting the...
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now he's going to try to press republicans to support more tax increases. and that's a big change in how washington has been governed up to now. >> perry bacon, lynn sweet, thanks to both of you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> okay, so the bill's moving to the house, but republican leaders haven't said exactly when it will come up for a vote. on the contrary, a statement from the four top republicans was careful to say they would allow members to review the legislation before deciding the next step. with me now, pennsylvania's democratic congressman jason altmire, who will complete his term in office this week. congressman, thanks for being with us. >> thank you for having me. happy new year. >> happy new year! well, yesterday afternoon before the senate bill was passed, you predicted the legislation that was taking shape would pass the house with a substantial majority. do you still think so? >> i do. i think it's going to get almost every democrat, maybe every democrat, and it's going to get probably half or near half of the republicans. as long as they b
now he's going to try to press republicans to support more tax increases. and that's a big change in how washington has been governed up to now. >> perry bacon, lynn sweet, thanks to both of you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> okay, so the bill's moving to the house, but republican leaders haven't said exactly when it will come up for a vote. on the contrary, a statement from the four top republicans was careful to say they would allow members to review the legislation...
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. >> now, congressman, i want to play for you -- president obama was on "meet the press" yesterday. he was asked about sort of his willingness to make a deal here. i want to talk -- let's play that clip and i want to come back and sort of talk about how he's being viewed by democrats. let's play the clip first. >> the offers that i've made to them have been so fair that a lot of democrats are getting mad at me. i mean, i offered to make some significant changes to our entitlement programs in order to reduce the deficit. >> lots of democrats have been mad at me. is that just president obama sort of being rhetorical or is there unhappiness from yourself or some of your colleagues with the possibility that we may be looking at going from $250,000 to $400,000 in terms of whose taxes will get raised and whose won't? do you feel like he's represented house democrats' interests enough? >> well, chris, as the president played out in that clip you played, he proposed a so-called grand bargain that would include up to $1.2 trillion in revenue combined with $1.2 trillion in additional cuts. an
. >> now, congressman, i want to play for you -- president obama was on "meet the press" yesterday. he was asked about sort of his willingness to make a deal here. i want to talk -- let's play that clip and i want to come back and sort of talk about how he's being viewed by democrats. let's play the clip first. >> the offers that i've made to them have been so fair that a lot of democrats are getting mad at me. i mean, i offered to make some significant changes to our...
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> you know, one -- i have a sound bite that i wanted to play for you that was from before president obama came out and said what he did. a few days before that, vice president biden, god bless him, went on "meet the press" i think to everybody's surprise started talking about how he was all in favor -- >> i love him. >> same-sex marriage rights. but he mentioned -- he hit a pop culture tv touchstone while he was explaining it. can we play that sound bite? >> this is e voluming. by the way, my measure david, and i take a look at when things really began to change, it was in the social culture changes. i think "will and grace" probably did more to educate the american public than almost anything anybody has ever done so far, and i think people fear that which is different. now they're beginning to understand. >> as at person who is part of a -- the phenomenon that is "glee" on tv, how do you think it felt to the "will and grace" people to be mentioned in that context. >> i know all four of them. i'm sure they're absolutely thrilled about it. when they first did that show and nbc sat them do
> you know, one -- i have a sound bite that i wanted to play for you that was from before president obama came out and said what he did. a few days before that, vice president biden, god bless him, went on "meet the press" i think to everybody's surprise started talking about how he was all in favor -- >> i love him. >> same-sex marriage rights. but he mentioned -- he hit a pop culture tv touchstone while he was explaining it. can we play that sound bite? >> this...
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he sat down with david gregory today, and that will appear on "meet the press" tomorrow. he came out with certain words for lawmakers in terms of getting something done before the all important january 1st deadline. take a listen. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get something done in an organized timetable. why everything has to always wait to the last minute. now we are at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self inflicted wound to our economy. >> this is a tactic that president has used before. to rally the public. it did work before. but this point, we are less than three days out. it's not clear it's having an impact. if we do in fact go over the fiscal cliff, there will be plenty of blame to go around, the poles show that most of the blame will be on republicans. however president obama is the commander in chief, so he will undoubtedly get some of
he sat down with david gregory today, and that will appear on "meet the press" tomorrow. he came out with certain words for lawmakers in terms of getting something done before the all important january 1st deadline. take a listen. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get something done in an organized timetable. why...
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chuck schumer on "meet the press" was noncommittal. he is a man without a structure and a man without a party. that's a very difficult place to be. >> the current gym of washington politics. >> thank you so much for joining us. appreciate it. the cliff gets closer and compromise gets further away. next, we are gaming out the option with two guys who are living and breathing this fight with me and the halls of congress. what this stalemate means for the rest of the to do list like immigration and gun control. we see snow the day after christmas. the president is scheduled to leave hawaii at 10:00 hawaii time. we have snow. the president is coming back to this. after being on the beautiful beaches of hawaii with the nice warm water. this is what happens when you don't have a budget deal. sfx- "sounds of african drum and flute" look who's back. again? it's embarrassing it's embarrassing! we can see you carl. we can totally see you. come on you're better than this...all that prowling around. yeah, you're the king of the jungle. have you th
chuck schumer on "meet the press" was noncommittal. he is a man without a structure and a man without a party. that's a very difficult place to be. >> the current gym of washington politics. >> thank you so much for joining us. appreciate it. the cliff gets closer and compromise gets further away. next, we are gaming out the option with two guys who are living and breathing this fight with me and the halls of congress. what this stalemate means for the rest of the to do...
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on sunday, president obama will be david gregory's guest on "meet the press." that's this sunday on "meet the press." but coming up next, whatever became of john boehner. remember him? not too long ago, he was the leader of an increasingly powerful republican party in the house. now, he can't even get his own caucus to approve his celebrated plan b. >> and later, through the magic of digital recording, talking about ef efb the most common sense proposals to limit the ability of assault weapons. and with his annual list of best political movies of the year. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ male announcer ] with over 50 delicious choices of green giant vegetables it's easy to eat like a giant... ♪ and feel like a green giant. ♪ ho ho ho ♪ green giant pretty sweet, huh? cute. but don't you have any apps on your phone that can make your life easier? who do you think i am, quicken loans? at quicken loans, we'll provide you with myql mobile. this amazingly useful app allows you to take pictures of your mortgage documents using an iphone or android
on sunday, president obama will be david gregory's guest on "meet the press." that's this sunday on "meet the press." but coming up next, whatever became of john boehner. remember him? not too long ago, he was the leader of an increasingly powerful republican party in the house. now, he can't even get his own caucus to approve his celebrated plan b. >> and later, through the magic of digital recording, talking about ef efb the most common sense proposals to limit the...
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you could see this love fest at the press conference this afternoon. american people totally understand and are supporting overwhelmingly what the president has proposed. they want tax cuts for the 98%, not for the top 2%. we've been at a standstill with plan "b" which never was a plan "b" to begin with because we're sacrificing the greater good for such a small minority. >> jimmy and susan, i am going to ask you about the president's press conference and whether you thought it was a bad idea. but when angela was talking, susan, you were shaking your head when she said that the american people are behind the president. >> well, i think right now the american people are frustrated with washington, and that's where that's going to come down. yes, the president is better than the worst guy. boehner is the worst guy and the president is better than that, but that's not the standard you want to meet. you want to have a standard of we respect our government and we're going forward. so that's why i was shaking my head is right now it's like to be the best out
you could see this love fest at the press conference this afternoon. american people totally understand and are supporting overwhelmingly what the president has proposed. they want tax cuts for the 98%, not for the top 2%. we've been at a standstill with plan "b" which never was a plan "b" to begin with because we're sacrificing the greater good for such a small minority. >> jimmy and susan, i am going to ask you about the president's press conference and whether you...
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and would be vee toad by president obama. so this is what we're seeing on the statement the day after christmas is while you guys figure out some solution, we wash our hands of it. >> as a follow-up, i'm putting my press secretary hat on for a second and say the response i would expect from the democratic side from the senate is hey, we passed a bill too. we passed a bill that does the same thing. why don't you just take our bill and go ahead and get it through? we need your help. >> they could well do that. the bill that has the $250,000 or below. it's interesting now that essentially here we have speaker boehner walking away saying well the senate has to act. they can do whatever. we're going to say on vacation. who does harry reid have to negotiate with them? where does he go? >> the president and harry reid can only negotiate so much. >> the question becomes if they can get a bill for 250 and below perhaps with the unemployment insurance attached to it, maybe put in sweetener with the estate tax, could they guarantee that
and would be vee toad by president obama. so this is what we're seeing on the statement the day after christmas is while you guys figure out some solution, we wash our hands of it. >> as a follow-up, i'm putting my press secretary hat on for a second and say the response i would expect from the democratic side from the senate is hey, we passed a bill too. we passed a bill that does the same thing. why don't you just take our bill and go ahead and get it through? we need your help....
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secretary to former press secretary to first lady michelle obama. joining us at the table is stephanie. pronounce your last name for me. i know your work so well. stephanie, tell me -- i'm bad. i'm bad. jeff jacoby, columnist. i apologize for getting your last name wrong, jacoby. jeff jacoby. i keep doing it. >> well, if you can't laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at? up next, the year in race. really. something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> welcome back. it's our year in review show. we have hit on politics, we talked lgbt for 2012 and covered the ladies issues out. this mmhp and us sitting here in nerdland, yep, we are going to talk race. what better time to do a 2012 race discussion, what better way to start it than in this moment. roll the split screen. yep, there it is. the naacp convention from july. there was mitt romney and there was joe biden. let's listen
secretary to former press secretary to first lady michelle obama. joining us at the table is stephanie. pronounce your last name for me. i know your work so well. stephanie, tell me -- i'm bad. i'm bad. jeff jacoby, columnist. i apologize for getting your last name wrong, jacoby. jeff jacoby. i keep doing it. >> well, if you can't laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at? up next, the year in race. really. something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop...
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president obama golfing in hawaii while he's on his holiday vacation. senator crapo arrested on suspicion of drunk driving. and actor jack klugman has passed away at the age of 90 according to the associated press. now back to "caught on camera." p >>> now back to "the mcveigh tapes." >>> it's just 24 hours after the bombing of the murrah building, and timothy mcveigh is sitting quietly in a perry, oklahoma, jail cell. he's not being held in connection with the vicious act that killed 168 people just the day before, but rather for misdemeanor charges. an international manhunt is issued for two suspects, john doe number 1, and john doe number 2. several witnesses claim to have seen a second man in the ryder truck prior to the bombing. as this is happens, mcveigh is biding his time, waiting to see how long it will take for authorities to figure out who he really is. >> while mcveigh's in prison in this little relative ocean of solitude, you know, just waiting for something to happen, the rest of the country is just uptight, in knots, wondering, is there g
president obama golfing in hawaii while he's on his holiday vacation. senator crapo arrested on suspicion of drunk driving. and actor jack klugman has passed away at the age of 90 according to the associated press. now back to "caught on camera." p >>> now back to "the mcveigh tapes." >>> it's just 24 hours after the bombing of the murrah building, and timothy mcveigh is sitting quietly in a perry, oklahoma, jail cell. he's not being held in connection with...